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Episode 32: Cecelia Campochiaro -Rational tech thinking, sequence knitting, self-publishing and the importance of books

August 25, 2015


Sponsor: I wanted to thank this week’s sponsor, Knitterly…a special yarn shop created by Shelli Westcott, based in Petaluma California. I am always amazed at the well curated selection of yarns, fibers and classes Shelli works so hard to provide all us fiber enthusiasts. Knitterly recently released a gorgeous collection of weaving kits featuring a selection of colors and textures chosen by Shelli and her daughter Ashleigh. Make sure to visit for a great list of upcoming classes at the Petaluma shop and a vast selection of yarns and their own Radius collection.


Fiber folk: A few weeks ago, I spent a morning sitting in our living room and chatting with Cecelia Campochiaro, the author and creator behind Sequence Knitting. It was fun to discover commonalities other than the obvious love of fiber…from our careers in tech and our time in Taiwan, to having the same tech editor and analytical approach. Sitting across from Cecelia, you can see the passion and dedication to which she applies to her craft, but more than that, you can hear it in her voice. She’s spent an immense amount of time and thought, bringing to the world her first book, Sequence Knitting, a labor of love and necessary addition to any knitters library. You can find Cecelia at and on Instagram @ceceliacampochiaro.






Man on the street: For this week’s “Man on the Street” I asked the question, “What sort of fiber related books fill your library?”. We had some great answers from Leanne @leannecoppola, Lauren @woolpickle, and Maria @fernfiber.



Sponsor: I wanted to make sure and thank our episode sponsor again, Knitterly. During the next few months Knitterly will be having a series of classes and workshops perfect for any fiber lover…from beginning knitting, to weaving, European Finishing Techniques, holiday inspired crafts, and Feltidermy. But the event I want to draw special attention to takes place in a few weeks on September 12th, when Cecelia, today’s guest, will be at Knitterly giving an intro on what sequence knitting is and teaching a workshop based on the techniques found in her book. I so wish I was going to be in the area so I could attend this myself, but if you live in the area or will be passing through, you really must go meet Cecelia and be a part of this special event. Find this and a list of all the other classes and workshops at


Giveaway: The winner of last week’s giveaway, is Beth of Evergreen Violet! You’ve won 2 skeins of Fancy Tiger Crafts Heirloom Romney along with their beautiful Imposter’s Shawl pattern. Congratulations!

This week’s giveaway is sponsored by Knitterly and Rowan Morrison Books. We’re giving away one of Cecelia’s books, Sequence Knitting from Knitterly and a 3-pack of the Knitters Graph Paper Journal from Rowan Morrison Books. To enter this giveaway, leave a comment in the comment section at the bottom of the post page.


Knitalong: Beginning October 1st we’ll be starting the Fall Woolful Knitalong which will be co-hosted by Knitterly. This time we’ll be knitting a pattern from Cecelia’s book, Sequence Knitting and the best part is that you get to pick the pattern! So make sure to pick up a copy of her book, which you can find in person or online at As for what yarn to use? We’ll be putting together a list of suggested yarns, but this could also be a great opportunity to use some of the yarn from your stash. So take a look and start dreaming of the perfect Fall project. We’ll share more details on the blog and podcast as it get’s closer.




Music by Jónsi.

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  • Reply Patricia August 25, 2015 at 3:53 pm

    Sequence Knitting looks like an amazing book! I would love a copy of my own! Thank-you for the giveaway!

  • Reply Sheila K August 25, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    Another great looking podcast. I just discovered them all and am listening obsessively. Thank you for the inspiration!

  • Reply Fine Lightness August 25, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    This book shines a whole new light on my knitting! Thank you for this episode!

  • Reply Kaat August 26, 2015 at 4:16 am

    I would love to win a copy of Sequence knitting. It’s amazing what is possible by using two diffrent stitches!

  • Reply Tonya August 26, 2015 at 4:33 am

    Would love a chance to win this amazing book – thank you for sharing the podcast.

  • Reply Amy August 26, 2015 at 5:12 am

    Would LOVE to win this book! Thanks for the podcasts.

  • Reply Susan August 26, 2015 at 5:44 am

    I was bowled over to hear that Nancy Crow was her aunt! Wow. Great interview, thanks 🙂

  • Reply Maggie B. August 26, 2015 at 5:56 am

    Great episode! Thanks for another interesting giveaway, too.

  • Reply Mary Anne August 26, 2015 at 6:27 am

    I’m fascinated with the idea of a book that is full of patterns I can learn and then knit without having to keep looking back at the pattern. For the times I am waiting or in a meeting, these patterns will be perfect.

  • Reply Linda Gesling August 26, 2015 at 6:30 am

    Wonderful interview. I love hearing about the thinking behind the book.

  • Reply Kristina August 26, 2015 at 8:17 am

    Another great episode! What an interesting book– the possibilities are endless! Thanks for the giveaway!

  • Reply Astrid afKlinteberg August 26, 2015 at 8:47 am

    I loved Cecelia’s story about fiddling in class, and the realization that for some people that kind of physical activity helps in attending to a task. If I’m at a meeting I have knitting. I don’t go ANYwhere without ‘pocketbook knitting’ (I mean ever!)! It’s nice to know I’m not the only one.

  • Reply Brittany August 26, 2015 at 9:20 am

    This book has been on my list. Looking forward to the KAL!

  • Reply Brittany August 26, 2015 at 9:26 am

    Sequence Knitting has been on my wishlist! Looking forward to the KAL.

  • Reply Kelly August 26, 2015 at 9:29 am

    I love the idea of sequence knitting. It’s so amazing the complexity that can be created using only a small number of stitches!

  • Reply Reb August 26, 2015 at 9:38 am

    It was fascinating to hear about this book, and I want to meet it in person someday soon. Thanks for the podcast!

  • Reply asteride August 26, 2015 at 9:59 am

    looks like this is a very interesting book.

  • Reply Keos in Wonderland August 26, 2015 at 12:04 pm

    Wow, you were right when you talked about her dedication! Cecelia’s story was captivating and interesting to hear, and I would love to own a copy of her book.

    By the way, I’ve been enjoying your podcasts a lot, so thank you for making them!

  • Reply Charlotte August 26, 2015 at 12:12 pm

    Ooh I can’t wait to listen – I’ve been fascinated to have a look inside this intriguing book.

  • Reply shirley August 26, 2015 at 2:41 pm

    Love the concept of the book. Please enter me in the giveaway.
    love the podcast and all the fab pictures

  • Reply Cathy B August 26, 2015 at 3:03 pm

    Sequence Knitting has intrigued me from the minute I first saw it. Would love to win!

  • Reply Dana August 26, 2015 at 3:11 pm

    Another lovely podcast. 🙂 It looks like a beautiful book, thanks for the chance to win!

  • Reply Sandra August 26, 2015 at 3:34 pm

    I so enjoyed your chat today & love the idea of sequence knitting! Cannot wait to find the book.
    Yours in yarn, S

  • Reply michelle August 26, 2015 at 3:37 pm

    I love what I’ve seen of this book online but haven’t been able to buy it yet (the exchange rate with my country is pretty crazy right now). It pushes you to think about texture, which I love. Can just see myself trying out some of the sequences on socks and then moving on to larger projects

  • Reply jenny August 26, 2015 at 5:55 pm

    I listened today while doing some knitting; it was like we all were in your living room together! So good. Looking forward to looking thru the book!

  • Reply Julia August 26, 2015 at 7:39 pm

    Fascinating episode! Will have to look for her book.
    Juliaknit on Ravelry

  • Reply emily falke August 26, 2015 at 8:24 pm

    What a great podcast! I’m so excited to check out Sequence Knitting!

  • Reply Michele August 27, 2015 at 3:28 am

    Thanks for a great interview and the opportunity to learn more about the book Sequence Knitting.

  • Reply Camille August 27, 2015 at 4:14 am

    You always have such interesting people on your podcast. I look forward to each episode. This book sounds amazing.

  • Reply Katie S August 27, 2015 at 6:40 am

    Loved this!

  • Reply Kim Schroeder August 27, 2015 at 7:08 am

    I love technical thinking. This book looks fabulous and I would love to win a copy. Thanks for such a clean and crisp podcast.

  • Reply Erin August 27, 2015 at 7:39 am

    This book seems so interesting and different – would love to get my hands on a copy! Thanks for the podcast!

  • Reply Kim August 27, 2015 at 8:08 am

    I would love to check out a copy of this book!

  • Reply Sindy P August 27, 2015 at 8:19 am

    I enjoyed your podcast again, whilst making jam. Now on to some knitting, you always inspre me!

  • Reply JIll August 27, 2015 at 9:23 am

    Looking forward to trying out the techniques in Sequence Knitting and to the KAL!

  • Reply Shannon Y. August 27, 2015 at 9:41 am

    I have had my eye on this book for a while now. Thanks for the chance! Love your podcasts as always!

  • Reply Jennifer Fleck August 27, 2015 at 11:03 am

    Wow. Awesome giveaway. Thank you!

  • Reply Dee August 27, 2015 at 12:40 pm

    Another lovely podcast. Don’t know what sequence knitting is so it is good to learn about it. Thanks!

  • Reply Terri August 27, 2015 at 1:22 pm

    I saw this book at Stitches Midwest and I really admire the systematic and thorough work Cecelia has done. However, to be honest, I can’t afford it! My only hope is to win it. 🙂

  • Reply Julie T August 27, 2015 at 1:43 pm

    I so enjoyed hearing the process of creating this book, how your tech life infiltrated your knitter life. The book looks beautiful. A work of art.

  • Reply Julie T August 27, 2015 at 1:52 pm

    What a beautiful book. Thank you for sharing the process of its coming to be. Very Inspirational.

  • Reply Caitlin 'TAnk' Bradley August 27, 2015 at 2:03 pm

    Technophile knitters for the win! Great episode, as always. Can’t wait for the next one.

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  • Reply Deborah August 27, 2015 at 2:52 pm

    I really enjoyed this podcast! Love, love Knitterly so lucky to live locally to this fabulous shop! Looking forward to hearing more on your KAL

  • Reply nancy marshall August 27, 2015 at 3:01 pm

    I’ve been knitting for the better part of forever, and I love to hear orderly knitters talk, love to see their books and patterns. As a painter and gallery owner for over 30 years, my first response is visual: the colors in the yarn, the pattern repeat, leaves against the sky. In painting, success is entirely governed by composition, whether tight Italian atelier or abstract. But composition is a fly by the seat of your pants, no rules – guidelines, but not rules, an either it works or it doesn’t kinda thing. No step by step allowed. The fog of magical development from first glimpse to completed work – whether painting or knitting – is an utter mystery to me, though I do it almost daily. Hearing Cecelia was a reminder of the beauty and clarity of a math problem – sequence. And, Surprise! The step by step makes luscious fabric. Thanks.

  • Reply Anna August 27, 2015 at 3:11 pm

    I pick up this book every time I walk into my LYS… it’s hypnotizing

  • Reply Megan Samms August 27, 2015 at 4:16 pm

    Thanks Ashley, for all of the amazing work you do in the world.
    Great episode -knitting math adoration and fascination.

  • Reply CIndi Brown August 27, 2015 at 6:32 pm

    Can’t wait to learn more about this!

  • Reply Lindsay August 27, 2015 at 7:06 pm

    I love the idea of focusing on the quality of the fabric instead of just the “shape” of knitting. Looks like a wonderful book!

  • Reply Jo August 27, 2015 at 8:45 pm

    Wow! I love the sound of this book! If I don’t win I’m definitely getting a copy soon! Thanks for an ever inspiring podcast! x

  • Reply Angela Digmann August 27, 2015 at 9:23 pm

    Never heard of it till today…intriguing!!

  • Reply Julie August 27, 2015 at 11:24 pm

    I love your podcast! Thank you! And this book sounds amazing really want a copy!

  • Reply Debbie August 28, 2015 at 1:57 am

    Sequence knitting! Fascinating!

  • Reply Emmaline Long August 28, 2015 at 4:16 am

    This books looks awesome- excited to give it a closer look. Thanks for highlighting such unique people!

  • Reply Marie August 28, 2015 at 4:20 am

    What a wonderful interview by such an intelligent craftsperson. I can’t see on the Sequence Knitting website that the book is for sale in Australia where I live, and I’d love to get a copy – especially to win it – I’ll pay the postage! I’m an academic and love books, and agree with the author that books are important!

  • Reply kimbuktu7 August 28, 2015 at 5:28 am

    Sequence Knitting sounds fascinating. This is the first I’ve heard of this book. Thanks for the opportunity to win a copy.

  • Reply Emily G August 28, 2015 at 6:47 am

    Super cool to hear an interview with somebody from my neck of the woods! Really enjoyed hearing about her journey.

  • Reply Susanne August 28, 2015 at 6:55 am

    I just stumbled over this great podcast, would really like to win a copy of this book.

  • Reply Kathy H August 28, 2015 at 7:46 am

    What a fascinating book and the story behind it! I am intrigued by patterns that look good on both sides, I hate having to worry about a “wrong” side. I wish I could be there to take her workshop in Petaluma!

  • Reply Leah C August 28, 2015 at 8:18 am

    I enjoyed this episode–sequence knitting sounds so logical!

  • Reply Meagan August 28, 2015 at 8:44 am

    Wonderful interview, great incites from Cecelia, I am looking forward to picking up her book.

  • Reply Bridget August 28, 2015 at 10:45 am

    Wow! Sequence Knitting sounds really cool! You never fail to provide great info!

  • Reply MaryJane August 28, 2015 at 11:02 am

    Ashley, thank you so much for all that you’re giving to us knitters and wool-lovers! I’ve only recently come across your blog, and am listening to a glorious backlog of podcasts as I knit. You and your guests are inspirational!

  • Reply Karen Bachman August 28, 2015 at 11:46 am

    I love listening to your podcast and it is one of my favorites! So aesthetically pleasing to my ears. Keep up the great work! I can’t wait to get my hands on the Sequence Knitting book-it sounds absolutely fantastic!

  • Reply Annie- Boho Chic Fiber Co August 28, 2015 at 11:51 am

    Wow Thanks for this opportunity Ashley, What a great interview! I love textured stitch patterns and can’t wait to check this book out! it is definitely going on my to get list 🙂

  • Reply Angela Verdone August 28, 2015 at 12:09 pm

    I’m almost ready to leave work; how will I avoid knitting all weekend with this kind of inspiration!

  • Reply Bernardo August 28, 2015 at 12:40 pm

    Love the giveaway! The episode isn’t yet on itunes 🙁

  • Reply Marguerite Leahy August 28, 2015 at 12:41 pm

    Another fantastic podcast, I love them so! I can’t wait to check out this book, so if I don’t win it, I’ll definitely be buying it. Thanks again for your efforts in producing Woolful, it is my favourite podcast and I eagerly await it’s arrival every week.

  • Reply Terri August 28, 2015 at 6:05 pm

    This book. Fingers crossed. Thank you for such a great experience with each podcast!

  • Reply Susan August 28, 2015 at 8:07 pm

    Really fascinated by the premise of Cecilia’s book. Always appreciate opportunities to understand my knitting better.

  • Reply colleen August 29, 2015 at 12:15 pm

    Another wonderful interview! It was interesting to hear some of the details of her self-publishing experience, as well as this whole new take on systematically exploring knitting stitches. What a generous giveaway!

  • Reply Jen August 29, 2015 at 1:51 pm

    todays podcast was very interesting. I loved hearing about Cecelia’s background and the process that lead to the making of Sequence Knitting.

  • Reply Carrie August 29, 2015 at 7:44 pm

    Still loving your podcast! And would love to have this book in my library someday…

  • Reply Rachel (schertzrachel) August 30, 2015 at 6:46 am

    What an excellent episode and beautiful-looking book! I would love a copy!

  • Reply SaraGray August 30, 2015 at 9:29 am

    Wonderful interview. After each podcast I think you cannot possibly find another story to share that I will find more interesting…and then you go and prove me wrong! Please continue to do so!

  • Reply Sarah Walter August 30, 2015 at 12:29 pm

    Feeling very inspired to knit without being totally reliant on a pattern. Thank you!

  • Reply Traci August 30, 2015 at 12:32 pm

    I loved this podcast and I am going to love this book. This is exactly why I started knitting. I am still choosing easier patterns, but it’s all about neutrals and the texture for me. But mostly the process. Also my daughter and I are planning on a road trip to Petaluma on the 14th, Oh the timing! But I live near Portland OR, so I will put Knit Purl, Oct 2 on the calendar:)

  • Reply Meaghan August 30, 2015 at 1:31 pm

    How interesting! I really enjoyed this episode, and am looking forward to checking out Cecelia’s book!

  • Reply Marybeth August 30, 2015 at 4:06 pm

    I hope I am not leaving a duplicate entry. My first response seemed to have disappeared. I am fascinated by Sequence Knitting! Can’t wait to learn more about it.

  • Reply Carmen N August 30, 2015 at 5:06 pm

    Looks like a great book!

  • Reply teegan August 30, 2015 at 5:54 pm

    oh, wow. this book looks so cool!

  • Reply Laura Petrie August 30, 2015 at 6:01 pm

    My imagination is in overwhelm with the possibilities within Sequence Knitting. My entire stash could be used so differently than I planned, and that’s a good thing. I hope I win the book since I am positively salivating over it.

  • Reply Jaqui Falkenheim August 30, 2015 at 7:00 pm

    Great interview full of pearls of wisdom. I just discovered Woolful and I’m hooked! Thanks so much.

  • Reply Karin August 31, 2015 at 1:00 am

    Thank you so much for your podcast. This was a fascinating interview and as a knitter who is motivated by the fabric and process this really resonated with me. Also big up for the shout out on books and where we buy our books. I am a collector of books from my local bookseller or from travels and I feel that sequence knitting would be right at home with my most cherished art and design books.

  • Reply Megan August 31, 2015 at 9:19 am

    I loved this interview and can’t wait to check out the book! I love the idea that it’s modeled after art books.

  • Reply Sherry August 31, 2015 at 9:52 am

    The concept behind this book is fascinating. I hope I win! Thanks for a fascinating podcast.

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  • Reply Emma August 31, 2015 at 10:49 pm

    I love the concept of sequence knitting! In fact, when I picked up knitting again earlier this year thanks to this very podcast (after a long hiatus brought on by compulsory knitting in school) I was looking for a way to learn systematically but my search came up empty. I would love to win a copy and would happily cover the shipping cost to Australia.

  • Reply Helen Kennedy September 1, 2015 at 5:02 am

    This book…love at first sight. Signed up for her lecture and class in Portland.

  • Reply Leanne September 1, 2015 at 12:06 pm

    Thank you once again for a beautiful podcast. I always learn something from every episode. Thank you for the chance to win a copy of the book! I would love to add it to my library. Happy Knitting!

  • Reply tess felder September 2, 2015 at 3:00 pm

    I have been wanting this book. Hope I’m not too late. Thank you so much for your thoughtful, in depth podcasts. I love them!

  • Reply Marylee Clamon September 3, 2015 at 7:27 am

    This was a very interesting interview. I will be experimenting with the idea. I wish I lived closer to Knitterly.

  • Reply Dianne@sheepdreams September 4, 2015 at 7:27 am

    “Sequence Knitting” sounds very intriguing and looks like a beautiful book. Thanks for the opportunity to hear how the inspiration came for writing it. Great podcast!

  • Reply Elizabeth September 8, 2015 at 8:47 am

    God what is that red yarn on top of the graph paper? It’s gorgeous. I’d love the graph paper, I’m planning a massive undertaking of a project: a knit tapestry depicting scenes from medieval sagas. Would be useful.

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  • Reply Joanna February 19, 2016 at 7:57 am

    I bought Sequence Knitting after hearing about it on the Knitmore Girls podcast. It’s been about a month and I am totally besotted with this book. I’ve knit a couple of the hats, am on my second Andrus and am also knitting Hadrians Wall. I found it so engaging that I googled the author to find out more. That was when I discovered your podcast!! I have to say that it is such a total pleasure to listen to you and your thoughtful interviews. Especially love the one with Pam Allen (from Quince & Co.) and I have so much to look forward to in catching up with all you past podcasts. Excellent podcast, easy on the ears.

  • Reply Kirsty May 2, 2016 at 12:18 pm

    Fascinating episode and am totally intrigued about this book. Would love to own a copy.

  • Reply Kirsty May 2, 2016 at 12:19 pm

    I found this a fascinating episode and am totally intrigued about this book. Would love to own a copy.

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  • Reply neecee crisp March 9, 2017 at 7:47 pm

    i love knitting books even if it does take a way time from my knitting.

  • Reply Cheryl Branz January 7, 2022 at 5:47 pm

    Sequence Knitting is lovely and an interesting concept. Great interview.

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